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The Real Talk Nobody Tells You About AI-Assisted Coding

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·3 hours ago

원본 (Korean)

Translation + Context

FT = ForbiddenTome — tap to see Korean slang explained

Looking at the reality of vibe coding that nobody tells you about. So you see the whole vibe coding craze and think "Wait? I have an idea too, and if I get AI to do it, I become a startup founder, right?" The moment you go in with that mindset, your life gets a little twisted. At first it's actually really easy. Everyone on YouTube says it: "You don't need to know coding." "You just need an idea." "AI agents will make everything for you." "I launched a SaaS in one day." So as an unemployed person, your eyes light up. 'Wait, I haven't done it this whole time, I haven't been unable to do it?' 'Developers were just acting like it was hard?' 'If I just talk well to AI, I'm a CEO too?' Then suddenly you go into Coupang and look at laptops. Normally an 80 man won used laptop would be enough, but when you come to your senses, you're looking at computers with RTX. "It's the AI era, equipment is an investment." "This isn't consumption, it's a means of production." "If I make 10 million won a month later, it's nothing." So you slap down 2-3 million won in card installments. And then subscriptions start. You thought ChatGPT Plus alone would do it, but when you actually try it, you hit a limit. So you're looking at Pro. Pro is 200 dollars a month. Roughly 300k won a month. Add a coding tool, editor, deployment, DB, domain, design tool one by one, and with zero revenue yet, you've completed the structure where money goes out every month. But up to here, the dream is still big. You tell AI: "Make me a B2B SaaS. With login, with payment, with admin, with auto link generation, mobile responsive, and sophisticated." AI makes something. A screen appears. Wow, I'm crazy. I think I've become a developer. Looking at localhost:3000 and founder eyes light up. Once things start getting more complex, that's where the problems start. It works locally but won't deploy. Deploy works but DB won't connect. DB connected but login crashes. Login works but mobile menu disappears. I told AI to fix it and it destroyed another perfectly fine feature. From this point on, it's not "vibe coding" but "vibe praying." "Please, this time just fix the file you touched." "Please don't delete existing features." "Please don't create 43 type errors." "Please let this build pass." That's what you're doing. Somehow you make something MVP-like. Now when you try to launch, reality comes again. To attach payment, you need a business license. You need to check on telecom sales licenses. You need to apply for a PG. You need to submit documents. You need to get reviewed. You need terms of service, privacy policy, refund policy. Your initial thought was: "Can't I just attach the Toss API?" But reality is PG signup fee 220k won, annual management fee 110k won, card commission 3.4%, VAT separate, that's how it starts. Naver Pay, Kakao Pay too—you thought "Wow, if I attach the national payment method, trust goes up, right?" but when you actually go in, you have to look at merchant conditions, commissions, reviews, settlement, policy, event conditions. This is where the unemployed person's expression hardens for the first time. "Uh. Zero revenue yet?" But computer installments are already going out. AI subscription is going out. Domain bought. Server attached. DB attached. To attach payment, you need more money. If you get a business license, taxes, reporting, management come with it. And the grand launch. Promote on a bulletin board. 83 views. 2 comments. 1: "Who uses this?" 2: "Why is the price like this?" No buyers. A few days later, one payment comes in. Finally, first customer. Heart races. 'Done. This is the start now.' But the first customer inquires: "Doesn't work on mobile." "I clicked the link and got a blank screen." "Can I get a refund?" "Can you add this feature?" "What I want is a bit different?" "How long will you fix it?" This is when you realize. What I made wasn't a product, it was a maintenance ghost attached to my life. One customer appeared, but instead of being happy, I'm scared. I was trying to get 9,900

16 comments

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Computer hardware aside, you can just use what's at home lol, but what's the deal with millions of won going to AI subscriptions, domain costs—that's all just pocket money stuff

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Rich person getting $200 allowance per month

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Finally someone said it lol, been using Copilot for 6 months and I still have no idea what half my code actually does 💀

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Just make an app that moans when you hit the MacBook and sell it lol

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But is there really someone dumb enough to actually do all this?

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I just use AI coding to make apps for myself lol, never distribute or anything. When I hand off projects I just tell them I can't maintain it haha

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Tell us what you actually made lol

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Just simple stuff lol, used to compile Excel reports daily—basically pulling data from Excel and organizing it. Used it for writing Korean reports

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Whether this was written by AI or not, it's all facts lol

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nah AI coding saved my life during crunch time, maybe I'm just lucky but it's been lowkey a game changer for me

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You can tell from the first customer story alone that this is actual experience lol

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Did you even read the first line...

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Wasn't solo dev but at a startup I experienced exactly this. Didn't catch that it was ChatGPT generated but honestly I can relate.

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I just use it to write scripts I need. Actually, that feels like the right use case. I use it effectively as a reverse engineering tool for personal curiosity

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Reverse engineering really is effective

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The angle of this post is weird though—so before AI existed, did developers handle business registration, telecom sales, credit card merchant applications for people? lol. AI just did its job. If you'd handed that to a person, suddenly a measly 2-3 million won computer payment isn't the real barrier anymore. You're just confused—the barrier to entry didn't get lower, you just didn't understand it before.

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It's not completely delusion though, because there are way too many hype posts that fuel this kind of thinking. It's like when liberal arts grads were told if you learn coding you'll get hired at Naver and make hundreds of millions in salary—sign up for academy now. Back then all these headless people dropped their jobs and rushed in. So yeah, this isn't completely off base lol

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AI only helps me run a pathetic site with under 10 monthly visitors. Trying to start a business with AI coding? Hopeless. Even if you can read code at mid-level, you'll fight with AI constantly.

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When I think of non-majors trying to do CS, I get dizzy. They don't even know how what they built works or why it runs—how are they supposed to do anything?

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That phrase 'drowning deeper' really hits

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Why mix business operations with AI coding? Business is already hard even for pro developers. And setting some extreme scenario like being unemployed makes everything else easy? Some people are actually getting courage and moving forward with AI coding. Have you even launched on the app store before talking? These types just think 'I can't do it so you shouldn't either'—they're weak-willed and just making excuses. Are you afraid of maggots so you can't make kimchi? Just do it.

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As a developer I think AI coding is fine, but you absolutely need to review it. Wouldn't this approach work better? Isn't this gonna cause problems? Say one thing and they immediately apologize and redo it. I wanted discussion about why the code was written this way...

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The fact is non-majors will drop out after a few bugs before they finish all that. They actually did everything in the post? Then they got better experience than most code monkeys. Deploying and maintaining something yourself is more important than just learning to code.

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Exactly. And honestly, without AI, your head would explode at every step. AI just skipped a lot of the pain. Q&A mostly works with one click, and honestly the effort vs. output ratio is good.

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This is why I don't trust AI code at work, always end up debugging it myself anyway which defeats the whole purpose

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The part about losing problem-solving skills hits different, I can already feel my brain atrophying 😭

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